Graphicks?

[pie]

Not to mention the 'moving' moments are overly cliche, and the entire movie after they leave the island is uninspired.

[Matador]

See I don't think the fact that there art style is limited by there subject has anything to do with why they wern't as good, the writing while good just wasn't up there. Rataoulie, The Incredibles, Monsters inc etc the ones I liked had charecters I could empathise with, I just didn't give a shit about anyone in Nemo for example though.

Writing is definitely part of it, but I think that the concept helps the animators put more thought into the character. How great is the movement range of a fish compared to a monster? Not as great at all. It's a limited amount of expression from the get go.

I'm not arguing that writing isn't the most important part of it, but I think that the art direction and the animation is all part of the charm.

[pie]

I think that what they were able to do within the limitations of, say, insects, is a testament to the creativity of the company. The art design for a Bug's Life was awesome, the writing was humourous and poked fun at insect and human characteristics. I don't see these things as a limitation as much as they are a challenge for the creation team, and I think generally they handle them very well.

[Knight]

I think my order is:

1) Toy Story
2) Monsters Inc
3) Toy Story 2
4) The Incredibles
5) A Bug's Life
6) Finding Nemo
7) All the other CGI movies in existance

I have yet to watch Cars / Ratatooie

[Ben]

Everything about the Incredibles is perfect because Jack Kirby came up with it 60 years ago.

Um... you mean Alan Moore and 20 years ago right?

The Incredibles is a pastiche of heaps of superhero comics and stories. But alot more is from Watchmen then from Fantastic Four.

Superheros outlawed as Vigilantes - Watchmen
Retired superheros getting back into the game - Watchmen
Supervillian faking an alien attack on earth - Watchmen

Superhero team as a family unit - Fantastic Four

Thats and the power set is the only thing it really takes from Fantastic Four (And its not like they were an original power set to begin with, there are 4 or 5 superheros with elastic powers, one even named Elastigirl, Super Strength? More superheros don't have that)

Oh, and Stan Lee is responsible for most of that stuff, Jack Kirbys influence on the story didn't come into it untill they started doing elaborate space opreras with Galactus and shit.

[Agrajag]

The guys who made the Incredibles said it was partially based on Fantastic Four. That makes it an homage and not a rip-off, which means its ok to like it.

[Knight]

I didn't think their powers were rip-offs, I think they were just there because they're easy to understand. Invisibility, supah speed, stretchyness, and being really buff! Easy.

[Ben]

The guys who made the Incredibles said it was partially based on Fantastic Four. That makes it an homage and not a rip-off, which means its ok to like it.

It was based on heaps of things.

There are the Watchmen bits I mentioned above
The family dynamic is deffintly Fantastic Four
The Mole man dude at the end was a direct nod to Fantastic Four
Hiding your super powers from the real world is verry x-men
There was a cyclops look a like in the cave that spelt out the password.
There is a superhero fashion designer in the marvel universe that does costumes for alot of super heros.

[Leetmuffin]

The writer also said that the character's powers were also based on their role in the family.

Father- Big Strong role model - Super Strength
Mother -flexible, everywhere at once - Stretchyness
Boy - Hyperactive kid - Super Speed
Teenage girl -shy, defensive - Invisibility and forcefields.
Baby - potential to grow into anything -everything

[Ben]

The writer also said that the character's powers were also based on their role in the family.

Father- Big Strong role model - Super Strength
Mother -flexible, everywhere at once - Stretchyness
Boy - Hyperactive kid - Super Speed
Teenage girl -shy, defensive - Invisibility and forcefields.
Baby - potential to grow into anything -everything

Wich is how they did the powers in Fantastic Four concidently enough
Reed: Flexible, can work to any advantage, is able to change plans etc
Sue: Started off Shy and a pretty passive background charecter (Invisible) as she grew stronger and more indipendent she became more powerfull (Her forcefields make her the most powerfull member at the moment)
Ben: Gruff, tough guy, raised on Yantzee streets, made out of rock and a big hardarse tough guy.
Johnny: Teenage guy, hot headed, etc etc.

[Bronze]

I always thought the FF's powers were based on the four western elements, with Mr. Fantastic being water, Invisible Woman being air, Thing being earth and the Human Torch as fire.

[Ben]

I always thought the FF's powers were based on the four western elements, with Mr. Fantastic being water, Invisible Woman being air, Thing being earth and the Human Torch as fire.

I've heard that too, but the explination above was paraphrased (Badly) From the comics so I'm guessing it fits

[TealKick]

I'm really interested behind the science of the superheroes though. Like how invisibility works (that still allows the user to see) and other superhuman feats/traits. I'm hoping the next Pixar movie comes soon.

[Bronze]

I'm really interested behind the science of the superheroes though. Like how invisibility works (that still allows the user to see) and other superhuman feats/traits. I'm hoping the next Pixar movie comes soon.

There is no science behind it because it is children's fantasy. It has no rhyme nor reason and if you try to look behind the curtain you ruin it.

[TealKick]

There is no science behind it because it is children's fantasy. It has no rhyme nor reason and if you try to look behind the curtain you ruin it.

I guess we won't be creating any superheroes soon then